Green MSP Ross Greer |
On 6 August 2017, The Herald (or The Herod, as I like to
call it) ran an article by Ross Greer titled "Time to show the door to the
lunatic fringe killing the independence movement with its bile". In this article Greer, a Scottish Green Party MSP who was also
Communities Co-ordinator of Yes Scotland, claimed that there is a fringe
movement within the independence movement that is likely to drive people away.
Greer started his article by rounding on those who engaged
in vitriolic attacks on prominent Scots trade unionist and founder of Radical
Independence, Cat Boyd, for admitting that she voted Labour in the June 2017
General Election. Point taken. The hate that Cat Boyd was subjected to
really was not on, and those responsible really should be ashamed of
themselves. It's called democracy,
guys. But in all fairness, while I like
what Cat Boyd has to say considering independence, there are times she really
does not do herself any favours. I am
not for one moment defending those who castigated her, but when a prominent
person within the independence movement admits that she voted for a unionist
party and abstained in the EU Referendum, then one really has to ask
exactly where her interests lie.
My main point of contention with Ross Greer's article however
are over unsubstantiated claims he made about some within the independence
movement being bigoted, without offering a shred of evidence to back that
up. "The attacks on Cat
Boyd," claims Greer, "have sat alongside full-blown denunciations of
‘feminists,’ the ‘LGBT movement’ and ‘social justice warriors’ and calls for
‘their’ exclusion from the movement."
If there are "full-blown denunciations of
feminists" within the independence movement, I for one would like to see
exactly where Greer is seeing that.
Indeed, I don't know if it has escaped Ross Greer but women have always
been very prominent within the independence movement, if not right at
the forefront of it. This has been true
ever since Winnie Ewing - "Madame Ecosse" as she became known in the
EU - won the Hamilton by-election in 1967, and Margo MacDonald followed that up
by taking the Govan by-election in 1973 (could you imagine any man attempting sexism towards Margo? They wouldn't dare).
But as well as these great ladies the SNP - and the wider independence
movement - has had very strong voices in the shape of Wendy Wood, Naomi
Mitchison, Margaret Ewing, Rosie Cunningham, Annabelle Ewing, Liz Lochhead, and
many, many more too numerous to mention, while in Mhairi Black we have the next
up-and-coming stalwart voice of women in independence.
Equally I don't know if Ross has noticed that it was the SNP
who have given Scotland her first woman First Minister in the guise of Nicola
Sturgeon; a woman so popular that not only are there voters in England saying
they wish they could vote for her, but I have online friends in the USA saying
they wish they had someone like her in American politics. I recall listening to Nicola at a
Bannockburn Rally in 2006, and I knew one day she would be First Minister - and
the best we ever had. I am more than
pleased to say, with the raft of policies that Nicola Sturgeon has introduced
and is continuing to introduce, I have been proven correct. And do no forget
that Nicola, having taken over the reins from Alex Salmond, stood for
re-election in 2016, and was swept back into Holyrood.
So I invite Ross Greer to show me exactly where all this
supposed misogyny is coming from, particularly when not only was Nicola
re-elected in 2016, but while the SNP vote was substantially down at the recent
General Election, their vote and seats gained in Scotland still outnumbered all
the unionist parties put together.
Likewise I have not seen homophobia, transphobia, or any
other bigotry towards those within the LGBT community to any great extent
within the independence movement. I can
only imagine therefore that Ross Greer is attempting to take a sideswipe at Rev
Stuart Campbell of Wings Over Scotland fame, concerning his Tweet aimed at
Scottish Conservative MP, Oliver Mundell, after his father, Tory MP David
"Fluffy" Mundell, came out as gay.
For those who have been living under a rock, Stu posted a
Tweet. stating "Oliver Mundell is the sort of public speaker that makes
you wish his dad had embraced his homosexuality sooner." Whether that was
homophobic or not is hotly debated.
Some of my LGBT friends say yes, others say no. It was however ill judged, as the unionists
were very quick to jump upon it, to accuse Stuart Campbell of homophobia, and
thereby attempt to smear the entire independence movement as being the
same. Not least of these of has been
Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale, who has been so vociferous about this
Tweet and other things Stu has said, that he is taking out a defamation lawsuit
against her.
I personally do not think Stuart Campbell should take out
this lawsuit, and I think if he loses it, that could be hugely damaging towards
the independence movement. However, if
Ross Greer chooses to side with the unionists over the alleged homophobia
matter, then I invite him to tell me just how much he has done for independence
compared to Stu? The production of The
Wee Blue Book by 'Wings' was an invaluable resource during the 2014 referendum
campaign, just as The Wee Black Book, listing all the claims of the unionists,
and how all the promises they made in 2014 have been subsequently broken, is an
equally invaluable resource today. And
besides those, Stu has been working tirelessly before and after 2014 to
highlight and expose unionist chicanery and false claims. Stu is a stalwart of independence, and a
true patriot.
When the SNP administration in the Scottish Parliament first
mooted making same-sex marriage legal, there were few against it. Indeed, the most prominent person was Stagecoach bus owner Brian
Souter, who bankrolled the odious "Keep the Clause" campaign to retain the homophobic 'Clause 28', and who was an SNP donor but withdrew that funding when Nicola
Sturgeon became First Minister. When the
Marriage and Civil Partnerships (Scotland) Act went to public consultation, 76%
of the public, most of whom were SNP voters, agreed with it, thereby giving
green light to same-sex marriage in Scotland.
And while Westminster may have been Holyrood to the winning post over
same-sex marriage, the Marriage and Civil Partnerships (Scotland) Act is
actually far more comprehensive and inclusive than England's Same Sex Marriage
Act.
Likewise the Scottish Parliament is now working on legislation
that will enable transgender and non-binary Scots to self-diagnose their own
gender, and streamline the system for changing their birth certificates and
other official documentation. Listen to
all that opposition to this from the Indy camp; absolute silence. Scotland is leading the field in LGBT
rights, and the vast majority of the Independence campaign are cock-a-hoop
about that.
I would also ask Ross Greer to consider what happened when
openly lesbian Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson was subjected to a
barrage of homophobic Tweets from one knuckle-dragger in 2014. It was the independence camp who immediately
turned on the said individual, condemned his words, named and shamed him, and
led him to apologise to the Tory leader.
Ruth Davidson herself later Tweeted that she felt she had been treated
with gallantry.
Also in 2014 I recall Better Together putting up a pro-LGBT
banner on their Facebook page. They had
to take it down less than 24 hours later, because of vile homophobic comments,
not from Scots Nats, but rather from within their own ranks. Nothing similar happened with the LGBT
movement within Yes.
Even when it was recently revealed that Kezia Dugdale was in
a relationship with Jenny Gilruth, SNP MSP for Mid Fife and Glenrothes, there
was certainly raised voices and concerns over their relationship from within
the Indy movement over information being compromised, but nothing that could be
construed as homophobic. I have no
doubt that had Kezia been straight and taken up with an SNP man, the same concerns
would have been raised. The only
homophobia I saw came not from the Indy camp, but rather some sleazy comments
in the media reports, as well as some unsavoury homophobic comments below these
reports, from Labour supporters.
I am not saying that bigotry towards women and LGBT people
does not exist within the independence movement, all too sadly, it is
everywhere and does need to be strongly put down wheresoever it is
encountered. But by trying to make out
it is a huge problem, Ross Greer is over-egging the pudding here. Particularly when, again, he offers absolutely
no evidence or examples to back up his claims. I however could point him to many LGBT people, the vast majority of whom are pro-independence.
I now move on to Ross Greer's claims that there is prejudice
within the Indy movement towards "social justice warriors", hereafter
referred to in this article as SJWs.
There are many have accused me of being an SJW, because I do
indeed stand for social justice for all.
I recognise that some enjoy privilege others do not, which means that
they do not always see prejudice and injustice towards others where and when it
does happen. I count myself as a
feminist, anti-racist, anti-sectarian, an internationalist, and a staunch
supporter of human rights for all. I am
an atheist and a secularist, who nonetheless recognises the right of freedom of
thought, religion and conscience of all. I am well-educated in matters of
sexuality and gender, and am of the school of thought that we are all born with
both already decided, and far from being fixed, all humanity is on sexual
spectrum, and a gender one.
So let me tell you what I think of SJWs - they are a pain in
the bum who often do more to infringe human rights than they do to champion
them. Many SJWs get so much of a bee in
their bonnets about 'inclusion' to the point that they actually trample on the
rights of others. They are also the people most likely to attempt to shout down
or otherwise attempt to silence others, and/or to attempt to shut down debate
by embarking on ad hominem insults and smears against their opponent. Keep that in mind, because it becomes
important later in this article.
It was SJWs responsible for Richard Dawkins recently being
‘disinvited’ from speaking at Berkeley University, California, for once saying
(quite correctly in my opinion) that Islam is one of the biggest threats facing
mankind today. It is the SJWs of the
Southern Poverty Law Center who placed Maajid Nawaz, a former Islamist
extremist who now campaigns against Islamist indoctrination but who is still a
practising Muslim, on their list of anti-Islamic extremists. It was an SJW diversity officer at Goldings
University event who in 2015 banned white people and heterosexual, cisgender
men from a ‘diversity’ event, and followed that up with calling all white
people “white trash” and posting the hashtag #killallwhitemen. It was SJWs last year of the University and
College Union who stated that an 'equality' conference would only be open to
members who identified as gay, disabled, female, or of an ethnic minority.
These stories are but the tip of the iceberg. Is it any wonder then that those of us on
the left, and I strongly count myself in that bracket, at the least see SJWs as
a bad joke and an embarrassment, and at the worst a dangerous hindrance to the
furtherance of democracy, human rights, and the radical agenda? If anyone doubts that, go and have a look at
some of the videos put up by atheists on You Tube, many of whom are on the left
or at least 'liberal', and see what they have to say about SJWs.
And going back to LGBT rights, Ross Greer would be well to
take note that there is an increasing number of SJWs who are siding with
Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists - TERFs - who deny the very existence of
transgender women, maintaining that they are only men seeking to attack women
in public toilets and changing rooms.
But again, Ross Greer makes this claim, and again offers not one shred of evidence to back up his assertion. And this one is actually highly amusing, as if there is one thing we know about Scottish politics, it is that it tends to be far further to the left than the rest of the UK. Scots have always pretty much believed in fair play, playing the ba' and no' the man, and largely accepting of others. Social justice has always been to the forefront of Scottish politics, and if Ross Greer is tying to pretend it is any different, that is not just disingenuous, it is a lie.
But again, Ross Greer makes this claim, and again offers not one shred of evidence to back up his assertion. And this one is actually highly amusing, as if there is one thing we know about Scottish politics, it is that it tends to be far further to the left than the rest of the UK. Scots have always pretty much believed in fair play, playing the ba' and no' the man, and largely accepting of others. Social justice has always been to the forefront of Scottish politics, and if Ross Greer is tying to pretend it is any different, that is not just disingenuous, it is a lie.
So, whom does Ross Greer blame for all this? Well, this was
the point where reading his article, I spluttered over a mouthful of tea and
had to read it again to make sure I had read it right. "I’m sure," Greer states,
"these comments come overwhelmingly from older white men."
Do you see what Ross Greer did there? He just made a sweeping generalisation
about one section of Scots society, again without providing one shred of evidence
to support his assertion; not one iota of proof to back up his claim. Instead, Greer is "sure" this is
the case, and so we have to take him at his word on that, and based upon that,
ban these people from the independence movement.
As an atheist I am often confronted by people who claim that
their god exists and they have a personal relationship with him / her / they /
it. That does not convince me and
neither should it convince anyone else.
I mention it here, because likewise if Ross Greer is going to make such
an assertion, he needs to supply evidence to back up his claims. Just like theist making their claims carries
the burden of proof, likewise does Ross Greer about bigotry towards feminists,
the LGBT community, and SJWs coming from "older white males".
And what is more, in making such a sweeping generalisation
and castigating an entire section of people within the independence movement,
Ross Greer has contradicted his own article.
He has shown his own prejudice, based on absolutely no evidence, towards
pro-Indy older white men. But he is
"sure", so we just have to take his word for that. Not only does that
make his entire article self-contradictory, it makes Ross Greer an outright and
utter hypocrite.
What is more, his assertion does not even hold up to
scrutiny. If there is one thing that
the independence referendum, and the 2017 General Election have taught us, it
is that older white males are not voting for independence. In the referendum, the higher the age
bracket, the more people voted No. Exactly the same happened in the recent
General Election, where it was those more advancing in years who voted Tory
(turkeys voting for Christmas) or other unionist parties.
As I write this on the brink of my 54th birthday, I take
umbrage at Ross Greer's words, very much so.
And I am sure that there are a number of my "older white male"
friends in the Indy movement who feel likewise. And just for the record,
neither I nor any one of these friends has ever attacked anyone for being a
feminist, LGBT, of a campaigner for social justice for that matter. If Ross Greer fails to understand where I am
coming from on that, I will remind him that all too soon he too will be an
older white male.
In his article, Greer wants to remove those he imagines are
damaging the independence movement from it. This is exactly the bullying
attitude of the social justice warrior; this binary thinking, "If you're
not with us, you must be against us" mentality, where they will seek to
silence you if you say or write (or even think) the least little thing against
their agenda.
I would not only like to see Ross Greer attempt to kick me
and other "older white males" out of the independence movement, I'd
like him to explain just how he intends to do that. Certainly, the SNP and Yes could kick them out (look out, there
goes Alex Salmond and George Kerevan - older white males), but is he then going
to have his "Greer SJW Police" stop people at every meeting, every
rally, every march? Are they going to
stand outside polling stations and tell those they are opposed to "You'd
better not vote SNP."?
Banning people from the independence movement is impossibility;
it simply cannot be done, because it belongs to ALL of us - older white males
included. You can maybe silence voices,
at a stretch you could maybe stop them writing - but you would have your work
cut out, but you cannot stop people THINKING independence, and VOTING
independence.
Neither Ross Greer nor anyone else can 'ban' others from
being part of the independence movement, simply because it does not belong
solely to them and they do not have the authority to do so; the aim of an
independent Scotland belongs to ALL who believe in it.
The only person who can remove someone from the independence
movement is the individual himself or herself.
And Ross Greer may want to think long and hard on that, if he truly
believes his words in the Herald article, compared to some other things he has
recently said.
"it’s time to show the door" stated Greer in the
Herald "to those who think misogyny, homophobia, transphobia and vicious
attacks are a price worth paying if they come from ‘one of ours’"
Compare that to two Tweets Greer posted the following day,
directed at a pro-independence Scottish blogger, who happens to be based in
Dublin. The first said "Check out Michael
Collins with a keyboard." and this was followed up by a comment, which said,
"The struggle is real and you're no Butterfly unless you join a flying
column".
These Tweets were in response the blogger, Jason Michael,
had posted in Butterfly Rebellion, which had been derided by Daily Record
writer James McEnaney. The references
to Michael Collins and flying columns refer to IRA commander General Michael
Collins, who commanded "flying columns" of guerrilla fighters to
attack British soldiers.
Jason Michael has called these Tweets from Greer
"anti-Irish racism". This is
debatable as Irish is an ethnicity, not a race. They are however an ad hominem slur - remember what I said about
SJWs? - upon a peace-loving pro-Indy writer and they are certainly
anti-Irish. What is worse, given that
Scotland is a land where the ugly spectre of sectarianism is sadly still the
scourge and shame of our country, Greer's Tweets are deeply sectarian. Is it not enough that we already have some
sectarian unionists claiming that the Indy movement is infested and ran by
pro-IRA Irish Roman Catholics, without Ross Greer apparently backing them
up? And if it is coming from "one
of ours", should we put up with it?
Going back to his Herald article, Ross Greer made reference to "obnoxious keyboard warriors", and in light of his farcical article, followed by two disgusting, anti-Irish and sectarian Tweets against a peace-loving man, I would like him to tell me just exactly what that makes him?
But then, Greer also said in the Herald "Bigots and
bullies aren’t my people and they shouldn’t be yours if you believe in a better
Scotland."
I couldn't agree more, Ross. And in light of your comments and Tweets, perhaps you should rethink if the Scottish independence campaign is really the place for you.
I couldn't agree more, Ross. And in light of your comments and Tweets, perhaps you should rethink if the Scottish independence campaign is really the place for you.
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